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Old January 11th, 2008, 11:48 AM
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As of 10:30 this AM, before docking in St. Maarten, the Capt. updated the situation. Number of new cases appears to be falling, but he explained that he still wishes to keep Code Red as a precaution against an upsurge that can sometimes happen.

IMO, this has not affected any part of our personal cruise situation, with the exception of some minor inconveniences (e.g. no salt/pepper shakers or bread/butter on tables in dining room and slower service in Lido because everything has to be personally distributed). No one seems to be too upset about the satus as it has become more of a "routine" and passengers are adjusting. I feel sorry for crew, however, as this places enormous extra responsibilities upon them.
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I am always alarmed at how many times I notice men leaving the restroom and going right past the sink. I've gotten to the point of mentioning how crude it is to them. No reaction most times...... Other times it seems a fight is near.
Kids, smokers, dress code violaters , will never bother me as much as ignorant, unsanitary,fellow passengers.
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As of 10:30 this AM, before docking in St. Maarten, the Capt. updated the situation. Number of new cases appears to be falling, but he explained that he still wishes to keep Code Red as a precaution against an upsurge that can sometimes happen.

IMO, this has not affected any part of our personal cruise situation, with the exception of some minor inconveniences (e.g. no salt/pepper shakers or bread/butter on tables in dining room and slower service in Lido because everything has to be personally distributed). No one seems to be too upset about the satus as it has become more of a "routine" and passengers are adjusting. I feel sorry for crew, however, as this places enormous extra responsibilities upon them.

I agree with you, Calm Seas. Our cruise has been fantastic. And, like you, I surely feel badly for the crew, who are doing yoman's duties, yet never fail to smile and act is if I were the only person on the cruise!
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Very glad to hear the number of new cases is falling.

Any idea if the Noordam will be scrubbed down when she arrives back in NYC ?
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I am always alarmed at how many times I notice men leaving the restroom and going right past the sink. I've gotten to the point of mentioning how crude it is to them. No reaction most times...... Other times it seems a fight is near.
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Very glad to hear the number of new cases is falling.

Any idea if the Noordam will be scrubbed down when she arrives back in NYC ?

I just read another post on here that someone was notified that it would be scrubbed down when they get to NYC and boarding will be delayed until 4:00. They scrub all day, every day. I'm guessing that the Red Alert will remain for the duration of the cruise.

Im STILL having a great cruise. Only thing I miss is fresh fruit in the cabin, and the waiters carrying my tray and getting me coffee. A small price to pay.
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I don't understand why they eliminated fresh fruit in the cabin. No one but those in your cabin would be touching it. The stewards all wear gloves. Why would having the fruit bowl contribute to possibly spreading the virus? Or is it an effort to find some of these type things to eliminate in order to save the stewards that much more work as they are doing so much extra scrubbing etc?

I would imagine that when you go through the Lido line if you asked for an apple, orange and banana etc you would be given them. You certainly can bring them back to your cabin to enjoy later when you feel like having it.



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How do you think they handle the salad bar with all those things to chose from? One server for the whole line?

Think If the ship were in code red, I'd prefer room service. Guess I'll be sure to bring my own supply of books from home(which I do anyway), have my ipod with my music, and my aft cabin. How bad can that be?
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I don't understand why they eliminated fresh fruit in the cabin. No one but those in your cabin would be touching it. The stewards all wear gloves. Why would having the fruit bowl contribute to possibly spreading the virus? Or is it an effort to find some of these type things to eliminate in order to save the stewards that much more work as they are doing so much extra scrubbing etc?

I would imagine that when you go through the Lido line if you asked for an apple, orange and banana etc you would be given them. You certainly can bring them back to your cabin to enjoy later when you feel like having it.
I don't understand it either. But, when I asked my very excellent room steward, Eden, why our fruit basket hadn't been replenished, he said it was because of the red alert. Makes no sense. But, every day something else seems to be added. Last night I took my Noordam coffee travel mug to be filled with hot water, for tea, as I do every night. Last night the server had to fill 2 cups of hot water for me and pour it in. He said he wasn't allowed to touch my cup. ??

The report today was that the cases are stabilizing. But some have been released, while others come in every day. Some of them are sick, others not.
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How do you think they handle the salad bar with all those things to chose from? One server for the whole line?

Think If the ship were in code red, I'd prefer room service. Guess I'll be sure to bring my own supply of books from home(which I do anyway), have my ipod with my music, and my aft cabin. How bad can that be?
Now that you mention it, I don't recall seeing a salad bar lately. But then again, I wasn't looking. But, if there is one, yes one or 2 servers put what you choose on a plate and hand it to you.

I brought all my own reading material, etc. anyway, so that's not an issue. As for eating, that has not been a problem at all. The Vista dining room is available and other than the fact they serve you bread and butter, and put salt and pepper on for you, as well as cream and sugar, there is absolutely no difference. The Lido has been very managable with very little wait. I think it may help curb how much I eat, as an added bonus!
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Jrzebird; keep enjoying the remainder of your Noordam cruise! All the best to you!
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Jrzebird; keep enjoying the remainder of your Noordam cruise! All the best to you!

Thanks, John! I sure will continue to enjoy it. It's fantastic!
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I can't believe they actually use real towels in the public restrooms!! Thats an obvious source of contamination. Especially from those "hand washers" who seem to think that soap is optional.
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Mochuck,

It's not as bad as it sounds... There are shelves with stacks of small handtowels beside the sink, and once you dry your hands, you drop it in the hole in the countertop, where they are collected by a crew member and taken to the laundry. So they are "one use only" towels and a wonderful luxury in my opinion.

I guess the reason they are not in use during Code Red is the possibility of touching another towel as you pick up your own, as opposed to paper towels which are dispensed one at a time.

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Thanks for the clarification. Do they normally restock regularly? I've been to restrooms like that and they run out of towels and people pull the used ones out and re-use them.
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Thanks for the clarification. Do they normally restock regularly? I've been to restrooms like that and they run out of towels and people pull the used ones out and re-use them.
Yep, they are regularly restocked. That is frequently the responsibility of HAL's female Indonesian staff of which there are not too many yet since employing Indonesian ladies on board is still a fairly new thing. Plus in order to get those used towels out, you pretty much have to stick you entire arm up to your shoulder into the hole and go fishing. Not that I've tried that!
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LOL

The ones I've been to, they were just put into a basket.
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Now that you mention it, I don't recall seeing a salad bar lately. But then again, I wasn't looking. But, if there is one, yes one or 2 servers put what you choose on a plate and hand it to you.

Thanks for posting. If you have the opportunity could you please check out the salad bar situation? I am cruising on the Oosterdam 2/9 and planning on having this most days for lunch. I will be disappointed if we are in Code Red and this is not an option. I will deal with it, of course, but just wondering specifically how the salad bar is handled IF code red should occur. THANK YOU.


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When we had a Code Red on Veendam, I was able to have my salad bar daily. I will say it was much less enjoyable for me having to have the steward make it rather than making it myself but you get used to it. For dedicated salad bar people, we know just how we want our salad 'built' and how many/how few things we want on it. I use very little dressing so layer it lightly rather than glob a pile of it on at the end. If I sprinkle a very little dressing halfway through 'building' my salad, I use far less dressing. It's rather awkward to expect a steward to do that for me so I had to compromise. Big deal. It didn't wreck my cruise but my salad was less than how I love it.

I simply told him how much of each thing I wanted. He began by making the salad HE wanted and after I let him go for a short bit, I asked if it were possible I could have the salad I wanted??? He quickly understood not everyone wanted him to go down the line and put something of everything n the plate. I think it was his first time with this assignment and I was his first 'taker'.

I don't eat iceberg lettuce and directed him to the mixed spring greens. If he put too much, I told him so. I adore fresh sliced mushrooms and when he put too few, I asked for more. And so it went. By day two or three, he knew somewhat I how I wanted my salad. (I'm sure he hated doing this MORE than my not liking it and I tried to keep that in mind.)

Sure, it was slower but where was I going? What was the rush?
For anyone to say a Code Red hardly impacts your cruise, I have to disagree. It does impact but for the most part, for most people, it is easy to roll with it.

Big deal, through it all, through all my hand washing, not touching hand rails, no elevator buttons, no hand shaking, purell every five minutes, I got Noro anyway. And, you know what??? I survived it just fine and I have other underlying health issues that might have made it somewhat more dangerous for me.
Worry more about getting the flu. People die from that each year. It would be an extremely rare case of Noro that would be so devastating.


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Thanks, Sail. I appreciate you sharing your experience with the salad bar during Code Red. I am thrilled that it will still be available. I am really hoping not to gain weight this cruise and the salad bar will be a big help, in that regard.


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